“Let’s go back to the basics of respect and fairness.” 

In this episode I sit down with the incredible Pam Macalvane—bestselling author, DEI expert, and entrepreneur—to explore the evolving landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Pam shares insights from her upcoming book, The Skinny on Inclusion, and reflects on her journey from a young leader with a mission to serve, to a powerhouse driving systemic change in corporate spaces. 

Chapters 

00:00 Introduction and Background 

02:55 The Journey of Service and Impact 

06:12 Creating the Inclusive Leadership Index 

10:02 Shifts in Diversity and Inclusion Practices 

13:13 The Importance of Communication in Inclusion 

17:59 Engaging White Men in Diversity Efforts 

21:58 Skillful Disruption and Compassionate Leadership 

28:04 Optimism and the Future of Inclusion

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